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PREVIEW: SPECIAL EDITION - Isaac interviews founder of Platformer and co-host of Hard Fork Casey Newton about our future with artificial intelligence.

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4.7817 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

On todays Special Edition, Isaac Saul interviews tech journalist and author of the newsletter Platformer and co-host of the podcast Hard Fork about all the ways the ground is shifting under our feet right now with the constantly developing world of artificial intelligence. Its a good one!



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0:00.0

Keeping up with what's going on in today's technological social media platform AI world is impossible.

0:13.1

I've been trying for a long time to find a guest who could come on the show and talk to us a little bit about what exactly is happening in front of us, how the ground is

0:21.7

moving under our feet, how to make sense of it all, with an eye towards being reasonable,

0:27.6

thoughtful, careful with their language, not somebody who's prone to being hyperbolic,

0:32.5

not somebody who's prone to being fooled by the media hype that often surrounds a lot of

0:37.0

these new developments in the technological space that often surrounds a lot of these new developments

0:38.2

in the technological space. Somebody who knows all of this so intimately that they can answer a

0:43.4

wide range of questions from the implications of Section 230 on YouTube all the way to what

0:49.8

the latest news around Anthropic actually means. That person is Casey Newton. He is the author of the

0:57.2

newsletter platformer. He's also the co-host of a podcast called Hard Fork. He is one of my favorite

1:03.1

voices and journalists to follow in the technological social media AI space. I don't even know

1:10.5

what to call it anymore. So I invited on to the show.

1:13.1

He said yes. I'm super thrilled about that. And today's episode is me with Casey Newton talking about

1:20.1

all the ways the ground is shifting under our feet right now. It's a good one. Hope you guys enjoy.

1:29.3

Casey Newton, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for being here.

1:32.6

Thanks for having me, Isaac.

1:34.5

So there's a ton of stuff I want to jump in with you to talk about today.

1:38.6

It feels like the kind of tech, AI, social media platform world that you are so embedded in. The ground's just

1:47.3

been moving under our feet, especially in the last few weeks. I think maybe the biggest story

1:52.1

and something I've talked a little bit about on our weekly podcast, suspension of the rules,

1:57.4

is these recent social media platform rulings that we got. And I would explain in my best

2:06.5

language what just happened and what the implications might be, but I have Casey Newton sitting

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