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This is John Batchelf. A much longer conversation with the authors Jerry Dunleavy and James Hassan, their book

Cabell, the untold story of Biden's fiasco and the American warriors who fought to

the end, about the evacuation in August of 2021 from Kabul in the little bitty airport in the center

of Kabul.

And here in Jerry Dunleavy describes the relationship between the Taliban. the a creation of the Hakani family over many years, working with the

Pakistan-ISI, working with al-Qaeda, working with ISIS eventually, and all of

those poisonous pools came together to create the conditions for the suicide bomber

who murdered the Marines guarding the airport right at the very end. This is Jerry Dunleavy describing

the Hakani network in Cabo, it's still there, it's very powerful, and there as of yet no response from the Biden administration to

what happened that day in Cabell. Is Jerry Dunleavy?

So a great question.

So I am an investigator on the House Foreign Affairs Committee looking into the Afghanistan

withdrawal.

I'll just note that I'm just here as the author, the co-author of this book, but the relationship that the

can't the co-author of this book, but the relationship that the Hachani network had with all these groups is very important.

So the Hachaniis are a key force inside the Taliban.

They also have a longstanding relationship

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