This is John Batcheter, conversation with Professor Richard Epstein, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, teaches law at NYU and the University of Chicago.

About the oral arguments before the Supreme Court of the United States in these last days, the so-called Fisher case.

This has to do with the January 6th events.

Mr. Fisher entered the building without permission briefly. The question is can the government

correctly use the Sarbanes Oxley law of the beginning of this century having to

do with obstruction of official business can it be used in this

case when it come when the conditions are profoundly different Richard's opinion having looked at the oral arguments before the court, the written

decision will be issued at the end of June.

This touches, of course, Donald Trump prosecution, also charged with obstruction on the very same

Sarbanes-Oxley law from earlier in this century. Richard Epstein, senior fellow

of the Hooper Institution, will the court stay the ruling of obstruction is a charge

against Mr Fisher?

Will it strike it down as unconstitutional or more of this later tonight.

I think they should strike it down and I think what happens is that one has to remember

that the abuses of democracy are not refined to the Republican Party. The kind of activities that the

Democrats have made by constantly escalating charges on January 6th will I

think come back to hurt them because a disproportionate punishment for admitted wrong is not the way

to go if you want to preserve the rule of law.