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PREVIEW: #RUSSIA: #GAZPROM: Excerpt from a conversation with colleague Michael Bernstam of the Hoover Institution, re the self-destruction of the once all powerful natural gas GAZPROM -- now bankrupt and sinking to dust.. What happened? More of this lat

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 22 February 2024

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PREVIEW: #RUSSIA: #GAZPROM: Excerpt from a conversation with colleague Michael Bernstam of the Hoover Institution, re the self-destruction of the once all powerful natural gas GAZPROM -- now bankrupt and sinking to dust.. What happened? More of this later today.

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0:00.0

Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. This is John Batchelor, speaking with colleague Michael Bernstein of the Hoover Institution about the sanctions regime

0:24.3

on Russia after the invasion of Ukraine.

0:27.6

We come to natural gas.

0:28.8

Gas prom.

0:30.2

The greatest company in the 20th Century created around 1970, Michael teaches me.

0:35.4

However, it's gone.

0:38.1

It's Financial Times headline, bankrupt.

0:41.4

Without a future, much smaller. What happened?

0:45.0

Michael explains. It wasn't sanctions. Here's the explanation as Michael says.

0:50.0

They shot both feet. Both feet.

0:54.0

Michael Baronstom, Hoover Institution, more of this later.

0:57.0

Actually, they shot themselves in both feet because the gas, natural gas has never been sanctioned.

1:04.0

It is them themselves, they deal it to themselves, that this is the collapse of the 55 years of history.

1:12.0

In 1970, there was something that was called the deal of the century

1:17.0

between Germany and Russia.

1:18.6

The project called Pipes for Gas, Gas for Pipes,

1:21.6

so the Germany provided pipes, built a huge pipeline from Siberia to Europe, provided cheap gas from Russia,

1:30.3

it saved Europe partly from the oil crisis of 73 from the recession of the time.

1:37.4

For 50 plus years this gas went to Europe and in 22 the Russian said are you are helping Ukraine we will turn it off we'll

1:46.8

turn all the well so the Russians did it and then there was an explosion of these pipelines and suddenly the Russians lost a market of 200 billion cubic feet of gas per year and now Gaspromise actually bankrupt,, lives of oil, not of gas.

2:05.0

It was the greatest, largest energy company in the world

2:10.0

before the shale revolution, and it is gone.

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