This is John Batcher. A conversation from next week, preview, with author Emma Southin, her book, A Rome of One's

own is the story of the women of Rome from the kingdom to the republic

to the empire to the Christian antiquity after Rome was abandoned by the empire moving to Constantinople.

These are women who are mentioned in the literature, in the legends,

but not much written about.

As Emma says very clearly, you could do a story on Roman dogs and have a longer

book than on Roman women. But she has put together the clues and the remarks and the

period of the women of Rome. And in this instance she talks of Julia the only child of survived of Augustus, and how Augustus controlled

her and married her to Marcellus, a cousin, married her to Agrippa, his best friend, married her Tiberius, his wife's son.

In this instance, he marries her to Agrippa, who you will recall Agrippa was the Admiral of the Fleet

that defeated Cleopatra and Marcus Antony once upon a time before Augustus when he was Octavian rose to total control. A control freak is what we

call him in the 21st century. He marries her to Agrippa and, it works for as long as Agrippa lives.

Here's Emma Salvin, a Rome of one's own.

This is from a conversation that I will play in upcoming shows.

I've played the first half of it.

This is from the second half of the two-hour interview.

I'm a South on a Rome of one's own.

Julia, the daughter of Augustus, the empire itself is one man, Augustus. This is when

Julia married Agrippa. So he then married a gripper first. a gripper first yeah

That's a gripper is his best friend and his right-hand man they've went to school together they're the same age and he makes a gripper his heir by marrying Julia to him and from that they produce

five children which is a very successful marriage.

And they get along.

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