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PREVIEW: ##PRC: Excerpt from a conversation with colleague Chris Riegel of #SCALA.co re the Beijing release of a manufacturing metric that shows expansion and not more of the contraction of the last year -- and how to regard the claim? More later...

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 4 April 2024

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW: ##PRC: Excerpt from a conversation with colleague Chris Riegel of #SCALA.co re the Beijing release of a manufacturing metric that shows expansion and not more of the contraction of the last year -- and how to regard the claim? More later...

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0:00.0

This is John Bachelor speaking to Chris Regal of scholar.com, my colleague,

0:05.0

about the surprising report from China that the manufacturing measure had moved above 50 percent, 50 and above is expanding, below 50 is contracting.

0:18.5

I ask Chris, is this credible given that we don't have comparable good numbers from hiring or from solving the real estate

0:27.6

crater. Chris's answer is both blunt and takes into account the question of investment from the outside into China.

0:38.0

Where is it?

0:39.2

This is Chris Regal of scholar.com about the Chinese claim that they've bottomed out and are turning higher

0:46.2

again.

0:47.2

No, John, it's super easy. If you're the Chinese government, you simply fake the number.

0:52.0

It's extremely well known not to trust any

0:55.3

official Chinese government figures on economic output. They're completely

1:00.0

politically motivated. That being said, if you look at indicators that they cannot

1:04.9

fake such as iron ore imports or container export you can get a much better view of

1:12.1

the truth.

1:13.0

Additionally, China faces the headwind of non-Chinese investments.

1:18.8

So external investment into China has cratered and has been in a very bad state for the past 18 months

1:24.8

without that capital coming into China even though China has amazing

1:28.6

manufacturing capabilities and is the factory floor for the world without additional capital coming in from the outside or

1:35.2

orders coming in from the outside, it's stuck.

1:38.6

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