Have you ever felt like escaping to your own desert island?

Jane Gaskin did exactly that, trading in the family home to begin a new life in the

tropics.

But she soon discovers that Paradise has its secrets.

I'm Alice Levine, and this is the price of Paradise,

the island dream that ends in kidnap, corruption, and murder. Wish you were here. Follow the price of Paradise Now, wherever

you listen to podcasts. This is John Bachelor. Conversation with Colonel Grant Newsom, United States Marine Corps retired,

author of When China Attacks, about the political influence peddling that China practices routinely in democracies, Canada, New Zealand, the United States.

As in particular about what's happening in Canada, there's an investigation underway to the Chinese interference

influence peddling, targeting members of parliament, cash being passed around, or threatened or tempting people with cash.

All kinds of tricks in order to undermine confidence in democracy.

In Canada, general election of 2019, general election of 2021.

And I'm seeking is there's an understanding in America about the same sort of thing going on.

We're an argumentative bunch of things. about the same sort of thing going on.

We're an argumentative bunch, as I say.

And so it's easy to stir us and are the Chinese playing that game.

Grand Censur is in specific and in detail and carefully shaped.

The answer of course being yes, here's Grant Neutham,

Chinese interference in American democracy, our conversation in the public comments, what we say to each other,

why we say it, how we conduct ourselves.

There's reason to believe that the Chinese are part of the conversation

and they mean to damage us, undermine us, make us doubt ourselves, make us just like

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