This is John Batcher, conversation with Steve Yates about China, about the approach to China with soft words and diplomacy, offering to work together, not confrontational.

Steve mentions that it has not worked, that it's not effective.

It's the same old story.

China hears it and then returns belligerent's aggression, predation, threat.

And what will work? Steve has a recommendation following that of our allies.

To be blunt, to be

straightforward to be adversarial to compete openly and to be very careful

about what access China gets to our technology.

Steve Yates, more of this later tonight.

Yeah, well I think the hardest thing to understand is that these slogans and well-worn patterns of behavior have not increased

deterrence, have not increased peace and prosperity. They have brought us closer

to conflict and our allies are basically begging brought us to

to change the way we're interacting with them to help increase

alternative paths to peace and prosperity,

less independence on the PRC, control sensitive technologies, and

improve our competitiveness relative to China.

And so I hope, whomever wins in November, I hope that our leaders

will listen to these calls from our allies in the front lines because I think

they're correct and there's opportunity for America before it's too late.