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PREVIEW: #PRC: Conversation with colleague Jonathan Ward on the scale of what must be done to confront China's predation in the 21st Century. More later.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2024

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: #PRC: Conversation with colleague Jonathan Ward on the scale of what must be done to confront China's predation in the 21st Century. More later.

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0:00.0

Oh, he's cute. Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

0:10.0

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him. Sounds like an elephant with a chest infection.

0:15.0

Well, they call him a dreamer. And now they're right.

0:19.0

All aboard, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. Find all the comfort you need in the quiet lounge.

0:26.0

Piando Ferries, there is another way.

0:30.0

This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Jonathan Ward, his book The Decisive

0:36.4

Decade American Grand Strategy for Triumph over China.

0:41.0

Here Jonathan identifies that we need everyone on board to deal with the Chinese aggression,

0:49.5

everyone, from Europe to South America to the United States to political parties in all those areas.

0:56.0

Jonathan Ward, the scale of what faces the United States and its allies in the 21st century. More of this later tonight, reacted accordingly.

1:08.0

Well, China understands that our sanctions capacity is, you know is very powerful.

1:15.0

And I think that's been one of their most significant lessons

1:18.7

from the Ukraine war.

1:19.8

And one other aspect to that is not just the fact

1:22.4

that we have the ability to do that in America from a policy perspective.

1:27.0

And in fact, we have this very deep arsenal of economic warfare capabilities,

1:33.3

many of which were designed in the Cold War

1:35.2

and even earlier.

1:36.2

So we're learning how to do that now.

1:38.1

And that's something I think Ukraine taught us

1:40.7

was that we have the ability to use, you know, state killer sanctions on another

1:46.4

multi trillion dollar economy. And Russia is a one and a half trillion dollar economy and

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