Ah, she's brilliant. Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival,

three for a city break. It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her oversized tent.

Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend.

All right.

Roger Junior and his dog, Roger Senior.

And don't get us started on Mel.

But, like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

All aboard Miss I finally got plans out the group chat.

Keep everyone's plans alive when you travel with us.

P and Dau Ferris, there is another way.

This is John Bachelor.

Speaking with Anne Stevenson Yang, the author of the new book Wild Ride,

her time watching the rise and fall of the Chinese miracle economy.

Now we look at the third plenum underway in Beijing. This is a

meeting of a domestic affairs and I ask Anne are they pressed by the terrorists

by the embargoes by by limitations that are imposed because of bad

behavior by the Chinese Communist Party.

And answers in detail.

And Stevenson Yang, commenting on the third plenum in the No more. I think that the tariffs are of concern because this is this is very much sort of a

as economists like to say a two-track economy where there's growth sought in the export sector

and in certain sectors like EVs and not really in the broader domestic economy.

But you know this plenum is focusing on the domestic economy not on international

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