This is John Bachelor, a conversation with Sean Kingsley and Rex Cowan for their wonderful, not

believable but all factual story, The Pirate King. Lost Treasure, Piracy in the Indian Ocean.

Spying, Spycraft for the King.

Scottish Independence.

This is the strange adventures of Henry Avery, the Pirate King, and

the birth of the golden age of piracy. Sean Kingsley here not only describes how Henry Avery was sent with the master spy Daniel the

foe to Scotland to undermine the Scottish independence movement. This is the early 18th century, but also lived to tell the

tale of his piracy, of his treasure, The Golden Age of Piracy. Very few survived, as Sean will mention. Sean Kingsley, with his colleague Rex Cowan, the Pirate King, the Strange adventures of Henry Avery in the birth of the

Golden Age of piracy, much more of this tonight. Thank you. I think that Daniel Defoe is a

details guy.

You know, he's really good, you know, as you say, they go up to Scotland in September 1706,

and this links again to Catholicism's Scotland in Edinburgh, they're a hotbed of Catholics, what we call

Jacobites, there's all kinds of characters coming over the sea from France. And they're threatening

kind of light today with Scottish independence and history repeating herself,

they're threatening to break away from the English crown.

And London's not going to allow that to happen.

So they send Daniel Defoe up there to basically manipulate public opinion by getting control of people in the church, lawyers,

merchants, controlling the presses. If you control what is written you control

people's minds and within two months of going up there they had all those controls but

by being a details person he needed as you exactly say a wingman to keep an eye out and see what was going and so he didn't

get stabbed in the bag.

Everything we know about Henry Arie, the power of King, he's an incredible strategist. You know, you don't get most

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