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This is John Batchelor, Panama from a much longer conversation with Professor Evan Ellis of the

US Army War College about Panama's troubles in the 21st century.

This is a state that was created by the United States at the beginning of the 20th century

that led to the prosperity of the United States, the ability to reverse two oceans, whether having to go around South America, the delay

on that, the ability to use the oceans for trade, for commerce, for the transportation to the world to project power

the U.S. secure behind two oceans.

Panama turned into a banking center and a very prosperous place.

However, since independence, it's led to troubles of governance,

troubles of the drought that has undercut the ability to earn money from the canal troubles, labor troubles with the copper mine,

troubles with the corruption in the government, the leading candidate for the presidency,

the election coming next year is now sentenced to years in jail for corruption in a previous

iteration of his presidency.

Panama has troubles, many troubles and the professor explains them carefully.

It does not look like a positive outcome at this point.

It needs everything. Here's Professor Avenales.

Well, John, certainly the U.S. is helping and I think the U.S. in terms of the migration and other issues,

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