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This is John Batchel, conversation with my colleague Bruce Bechtel, who with Anthony

Selsso, author of a new book, Rogue Allies, The Strategic Partnership between Iran and North Korea.

Here, Bruce addresses China in this supply chain of the axis of revisionist states,

China providing the North Korea to provide to Tehran, to Russia, to all the bad actors.

Bruce Bechtel, much more of this tonight.

Is there a trade of technology?

Does China give technology to North Korea?

Is China provide parts, dual-use technology, to North Korea?

What do we know?

Well, China is very important to North Korea, and the Ukrainian war is included in this,

especially since about 2019, the Chinese have just stopped really enforcing the sanctions

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