This is John Batcher, conversation with my good colleague Charles Pellegrino, author of Tehellen Back, also known as Last Train from

Arashima. The Nagasaki bomb, the bomb that was built out of plutonium and its effects upon the people and the

creatures on ground. This is one story that is rough to contemplate, but here it is, the degloving of a horse.

Charles Pellegrino, to Helen Back, aka last train from Arashima, an atomic weapon used in anger for the last time.

So far.

More of this tonight. Right.

The pale horse was the one in Hiroshima.

There was a survivor, a soldier actually who saw this horse where the blast from an atomic bomb

can be so strong that first on one side of your body your skin is instantly roasted and then

when the wind hits it actually degloves you it can pull the skin off just like

pulling a glove off of an arm. It's called a

degloving injury and this horse was basically staggering behind this soldier

following him for a while this pinkish horse that the soldier realized it had been completely degloved.

It was a horse then the muscle clinging to bones following him for a distance and he recorded a

passage he recalled the passage out of the book of revelation about the pale horse

and death comes with it.