This is John Bachelor, conversation with Matthew Schindel, the author of the book about Mars

that's fun for the love of Mars.

This is the story of Mars through epoch of time, how it's been regarded by people who can see it, people who

project upon it, Mars, the God of war, and people who come to understand that it's a natural part of the solar system.

And that's where Matthew comments here.

The 18th century could observe Mars and sought an explanation for it integrated into the rest of the

solar system that was not divine, as Matthew says.

Here's Matthew Schendel to understand the transformation of Mars from the myth or the phenomenon or the

phenomenon or the phenomenon or the creators design into a product of a natural

conditions. Matthew Schendel, for the love of Mars.

More of this later tonight.

Well, I mean, during this period,

there's a lot of enlightenment thinking

about the solar system and where it came from. And there is this. of Enlightenment

and where it came from. And there is this effort, you know, on the part of Bufon and later Laplace

to try and imagine a natural cause for the creation of the universe as opposed to, you know, a divine cause or there being a heavenly creator.

And so, you know, what they try to start looking for is how can you apply just natural

phenomenon to try and understand where things might have come from and how they would have been put into motion so that you have all these planets orbiting the sun.

And you know this is really the beginning of starting to think about the planets as having all been created in the same event from natural processes and all of them basically having the same physics and a family relationship to each other having all come from the same stuff and obeying the same laws.

So it's this extension of Galileo's observation and Newton's new physics now being applied to what we might call sort of a natural history of

the planets and how they evolve over time.

Martians.

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