Have you ever felt like escaping to your own desert island?

Jane Gaskin did exactly that, trading in the family home to begin a new life in the

tropics.

But she soon discovers that Paradise has its secrets.

I'm Alice Levine, and this is the price of Paradise,

the island dream that ends in kidnap, corruption, and murder.

Wish you were here.

Follow the price of Paradise Now, wherever you listen to podcasts.

This is John Batcher speaking with Paul Gregory of the Hoover Institution of his book

The Oswald's an untold account of Marina and Lee Harvey Oswald. Everything about

Oswald is a tragedy. There's details here that are surprising. Paul comments on

Marguerite Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald's mother, and her presumption with the Warren Commission, her presumption

with the Chief Justice of the United States, her demands as she's being questioned about what she knew and when she knew it about Lee Harvey

Oswald's conduct those years before the Soviet Union, after the Soviet Union when he was in Fort Worth in Dallas, before he became

the assassin that we all remember from the 20th century.

Here is Paul Gregory explaining, as best he can, Marguerite Oswald, who is surprising in her separation

from history and reality and what's going on around her. More of this tonight. The

Ozwalds is the name of the book. An untold account, you bet. I originally had no intention to write an entire chapter about

Marguerite, but as you yourself have seen this is an incredible event where this dumpy nurse sets herself the goal of going against the

against Earl Warren, the Chief Justice

of the Supreme Court.

And she had these crazy stories about Lee,

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