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you listen to podcasts. This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Bob Zimmerman about the plans for a man moon landing.

2026, using components from NASA and from SpaceX.

The question is that 2026 date, how much testing remains to be done at Boca Chica and how much

is ready from NASA? Bob uses in good spirits the best estimate he can see on the basis of what we've learned so far about

the pace of Boca Chica, how they work, how Starship and other parts of the

puzzle are coming together, and then he comes up with a number that's quite acceptable.

Here's Bob Zimmerman on NASA's plans

and a realistic version of what SpaceX can do

to get back to the moon.

More of this tonight. It'll be great.

It'll be great.

It'll be great.

And the question is what it'll happen to do.

The land in 26, they've got to do it next year, and I just don't see that.

Uh, SpaceX is fast and it works hard, but this is a difficult challenge.

Doesn't mean they won't have it finished by 28, let's say a 27, but then, you know, getting the landing to take place.

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