I'm This is the Friends of History Debating Society live on a beautiful summer evening in Lundanium.

The Thames is very quiet, a beautiful evening,

and the centurions are enjoying themselves telling gambling stories.

It's odd how men who fight across the empire when they talk about anything.

They don't talk about their battles or their scars.

They talk about their gambling debts or their gambling winnings.

Well, the Roman life. The Roman life is the subject that I proposed to Germanicus we

mentioned tonight because I've been reading the late 5th century. This is, Rome was sacked

at the beginning of the 5th century. It was sacked towards the end of the 5th century. This is, Rome was sacked at the beginning of the 5th century. It was sacked

towards the end of the 5th century. And so much was the empire built on the assumption that

Rome cannot fall. They moved the capital to Ravenna. Okay, that was a good move. And in the

meantime, Constantine had built his city.

There is a debate.

One version says he didn't expect it to become the empire.

It was just a good place on the Danube.

But by the late 5th century, it was well established as a trading post.

It was good business.

And Rome was no longer occupied as the thing we must hold on to.

The empire had moved to Ravenna, which is a beautiful place, I understand, but it's not Rome.

Now, what I've discovered Germanicus in my reading, always dangerous, is that in the late 5th century, there are no Rome. Now, what I've discovered Germanicus in my reading, always dangerous, is that in the late 5th

century, there are no Romans here. They're all Visigas or Ostogas, and the success of Gaul is that it

took over. Now, we treat them as Romans,

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