This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague Jonathan Shanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

Hezbollah, their negotiations said to be underway in Beirut back and forth.

However, Jonathan outlines why it is that Hezbollah cannot surrender, cannot negotiate, can do nothing but continue to fire rockets into Israel,

and wait the guidance, the leadership, the bad actors in Tehran.

Jonathan Shanzer on Hezbollah, and the possibility of ceasefire is minimal. Perhaps doesn't exist. Minimal.

More of this tonight. Yeah, I don't I don't actually see these negotiations going particularly

well. Almost Hoxstein, the envoy for President Biden, has been spending a lot of time in the region.

There is some discussion right now about a possible deal that would force Hezbollah north of the Latani.

I think Hezbollah is going to have a hard time accepting a deal where it loses operational territory and that it's forced to withdraw or disarm in certain

areas. I do think, though, that there is a real need being articulated by the Israelis.

They want out of this war. And by the way, Trump is now saying that he wants everybody out of this war,

that he is, that he prefers to see this war wrapped up before he steps into office on January 20th.

I think that's an interesting dynamic, but really, I think the answer only lies with Iran.

The regime in Iran will ultimately decide whether

Hezbollah continues to be deployed. The new leader of Hezbollah likely does not have much

of a say in all of this. We're watching Hezbollah, even as it has been depleted. Even as we have

watched it get hurt, its leadership struck down, its longer range missiles, depleted.

All of these things are good news, but they are still, as you know, John, firing missiles and drones into Israel, 200 per day.

The Israelis cannot, and I think have made the decision that they will not intercept

all of them. That means more destruction and mayhem on Israel's north. This plays to an advantage

for the regime in Iran and for Hezbollah. War of attrition is a win for them. The longer they

can do it, the weaker Israel gets, the more their morale is eroded. So it's interesting

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