when in 2015, after so many years, you know, surveillance cameras are finally put in that.

But after so many cries from primarily the prisoners saying they were getting, they were sort of assaulted by the guards.

But it's an interesting thing because what it really looked like, how it showed up in real life was that the guards would write up reports

that the prisoners would assault them. For so many years, it was a level of, like, assault on staff,

you know, about 50, 60 a year, 70 a year, I had like a 10-year stats on it. The first year the

cameras came in, there was like 10 assault on staffs. So I had to unpack all that rather esoteric information in an investigative reportage kind of way and put that information in a piece where people could understand it. Like, wait a second. So what does that mean? The first time, you know, the cameras came in that there's 10, what, 13 assault on...

There's never been 13 assault on staff, and that matter.

So I had to ask that.

I had to say, okay, this is what that means, folks.

That means when they beat your ass, they write you up for assaulting them.

And when I did that, it was basically a hypothesis.

But it was a hypothesis through personal experience and observation and talking to a lot of my peers,

and I got their stories, and I got their medical records.

And it was a pretty balsy piece to write for somebody on the enzyme.

So we published that at the same time.

So I was starting to work on those cases in 2015 and 2016. These were like years-long pieces in the making, right? And then I was

working on the one for Esquire at the same time.