This is John Bachelor, conversation with my good colleague Lorenzo Fiore in Italy about the fact that Italy, along with Spain, Greece and Portugal, are outgrowing Germany.

That's right over these last years.

Outgrowing more GDP generated.

The tables turn since 2008.

And why?

The tourism returns, but also a new government led by Georgia Maloney a

coalition right of center and here Lorenzo apprises how Georgia Maloney has pulled together the country for this growth spurt that is spectacular.

Lorenzo Fiore on Georgia Maloney, the Prime Minister of Italia.

Absolutely, absolutely.

I think Georgia is doing a very good job, particularly she was very clever in making a lot of

activities with the foreign partner, particularly starting from the European countries,

but also other countries, and now trying to push for this Mate plane, which is a plan to develop and grow Africa in the African

territory. In my opinion, she has a vision, but I would not forget that before George Meloni came

into power there was the super Mario Mario I think Mario Drag I think Mario

Mario Drag did also a very important job because the reputation of Mario Draghi worldwide is very eye and I think he did a very important challenge after the pandemic to put together many different parties, many different

culture in order to achieve a common goal. I think he prepared the ground and

Judge Meloni is continuing the job in a very

professional way. More of this in detail later.