This is John Batcher, conversation with Bill Rajo, the Foundation for the Defense of democracies,

about the murky connections between the Taliban in Kabul, the al-Qaeda in training camps in Afghanistan and ISIS K said to be the sponsors of the

murder raid on Moscow these last days. ISIS K is a subset of the jihadists.

He here to four it's been presented as antithetical to al-Qaeda because it wants to capture

territory and is not a spiritual leader. In essence these two are opposed to each

other. However, then there is the Taliban and then there are the Haakani network in Cabal.

All very murky, perhaps deliberately so.

So Bill sorts it out for us, why the attack in Moscow can lead a trail back to Kabul or cannot. This is very, very, very

fog of war. Some elements of it is that is certainly possible and quite likely. Remember when the when

Bogram was overrun by the Taliban the Taliban opened the prisons the Taliban knew

that there were hundreds of Islamic State fighters within that prison and yet let them out.

The relationship is complicated. The entirety of the Islamic State Horazon province isn't a proxy of the

security of the Islamic State Horazon province isn't a proxy of the Haakani's or the Taliban,

but they can be used at times.

As far as the airport, the attack at the airport goes,

what people don't understand is that a Ha Hakani unit, which of course is Taliban,

unit known as Badri 313, was in charge of security at the perimeter of the airport where, you know, they were the guards that the Taliban that were quote,

our partners according to General Mackenzie. Badgery 313 is a special forces unit of the

Taliban, which includes suicide bombers.

If they understood what suicide bombers look like, they very likely knew who the Islamic State

fighters were.

It's very, you know, I put a lot of credence in the fact that the

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