This is John Batcher, conversation with Richard Goldberg,

at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy,

not only about Iran acquiring a bomb,

what is Russia's opinion, but also Iran working

with North Korea, which we know has an atomic weapon,

and in the past has been reported as the R&D for Iranian Nuclear Weapon Program.

Is Iran okay with partnering with North Korea, blessed by Moscow?

It certainly looks okay, not for making money, but for forming an alliance that Rich says clearly describes

a new Cold War.

Richard Goldberg, Foundation for the Defense of Democracy.

Moscow, Tehran, Pyongyang, Beijing. More of this later.

It is definitely something that the intelligence community should be watching.

I hope they're watching.

And it's something that might be tough to actually intercept.

Obviously, if Moscow now has fully embraced Iran as a strategic partner not just as a partner

to make some money on some civil nuclear power plants and to maybe sell some weapons

and to just anger and undermine the US but ultimately to see

them as a strategic partner in a long-term war along with China along with North

Korea and other actors like Venezuela, Cuba against the United States.

Then we should assume that Russia no longer opposes Iran having a nuclear weapon and will continue to support them in various ways.

We've already heard the reports of hypersonic missiles. and we'll continue to support them in various ways.

We've already heard the reports of hypersonic missiles

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