This is John Bachelor, conversation with Elon Berman of the American Foreign Policy Council

about Iran's trade with China, oil trade, and how that is not only illicit, it is not in any fashion stopped or blocked or pursued by

the Biden administration, despite the emphasis on sanctions on the Islamic Republic of Iran.

I puzzle about that.

I puzzle about why that is so, and

Elon has a very careful answer.

Elon Berman, the American Foreign Policy Council,

on the trade between China and Iran,

in oil, energy.

More of this later tonight. in oil, energy.

More of this later tonight. I think you hit upon a key component, which is the Iranian oil trade, because this is the low-hanging fruit in a number of regards.

This is the driver of Iran's economic rebound.

Iran has amassed billions of dollars that have helped it rebuild and strengthen its foreign exchange reserves over the last three years of the Biden administration.

And it is also the driver of the Iranian Chinese relationship in a way that's

enumerably strengthening the Chinese government.

So if you're going to get serious about this block a

logical place to start is the Iran's oil trade and most of it these days is

illicit but it's happening nonetheless.

And this is really the dog that is embarking

in the conversation about Iran,

because the Biden administration talks a very good game

about saying that, oh, no, no, no, we haven't removed any sanctions from Iran.

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