This is John Bachelor, speaking to Cliff May, the founder and president of the Foundation for

the Defense of democracies, about the state of the JCPOA renegotiation by the Biden administration

after three years.

A large amounts of cash had been handed over from different sources, but what has been

accomplished.

Cliff summarizes not only the opinion of observers but of the IEA, the nuclear

watchdog at the United Nations, and going forward the continued negotiation or pending negotiation for the water down or the revised or the refreshed or the reawaken JCPOA, what is the purpose of it?

Where is it going? Given the ongoing war in the Middle East,

it is now Israel and Tehran staring at each other directly.

Here's Cliff May to explain the JCPOA ambition of the

Biden administration since its inauguration and what happens next.

Absolutely nothing.

What they're trying to do is get the Islamic Republic of Iran to agree to a weaker, watered-down version of the

JCPOA, which was President Obama's deal the joint comprehensive plan of

action it wasn't comprehensive it wasn't a plan of action it was at most delaying

of certain parts of their nuclear weapons program while other parts

including missile production and sophistication were ongoing

uh... and interestingly uh... Raphael Grocy as i said the director general of the IAEA was very clear about this.

He said, look, basically he said there's no point to such a deal.

It doesn't, would not accomplish anything, even if the Islamic Republic of Iran, even if

Supreme Leader Ali come in, he said I'll go along with it, which he hasn't, which he doesn't

want to do. So it's a it's a useless effort. The Trump administration did put

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