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This is John Batchel, conversation with colleague Brad Bowman of the Foundation for Defense

of Democracy. It's about information war launched by Beijing, Moscow, Tehran, Pyong,

over these last years, intense now. What is the purpose of information more?

Brad outlines how it works and why it's effective, and what are we doing about it?

There's Brad Bowman.

There's much to say about preparation for conflict.

Dealing with information more is now.

More of this tonight. So in my piece in the New York

Post that I, that is, that I, that I, that I published this week, you know, we don't just want to

admire the headache. We want to talk about aspirin. That's a core part of the DNA of our, of

FDD. The first point I make is that we are currently in an information war. We're seeing an

information war being waged against us. And I make that comment not just as some vacuous flip

of the hand. We published our, as you know, John, I think we talked about it, our cognitive

combat monograph in 2024, where we looked at this in detail. And your listeners can

look at that online if they want to.

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