This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Jonathan Schanser, the Senior Vice President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, about the planning Israel's doing now for the next and the next and the next combat. The bigger picture, question of

when Jonathan indicates perhaps up to a year before major operations begin against not only Hezbollah, not only

the Houthis, not only Islamic jihad, but Iran itself, the driver, the brain of the tentacles surrounding Israel.

Jonathan is very careful to make a distinction between tactical and strategic.

A pause gives Israel an opportunity for strategic planning

is Jonathan Shenzer on next and next and next.

Well see I think that's the big question, and that may be the difference between a three month

or six month or, you know, one year plan for Israel.

I think right now, if I'm to be frank frank I've not seen a lot of strategy exhibited by the Israelis

It's been a tactical battle against Hamas it will it has been a tactical battle with with his balla you know tactical strikes against the

huthies we were not seeing sort of a 360 plan coming from the Israelis but in the

event that hostilities truly kick off and that

Israel's had the time and space to prepare its weapons packages to prepare its

strike packages, I think we're going to see a very different war and it could very well

involve the IRGC. It could involve significant infrastructure inside Iran. I think once the Israelis are able to go on offense, I don't think

they're going to want to turn back.