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everything secure. This is John Batchelor, conversation with the author, Eleanor Barakuff.

She's also a broadcaster and an historian. Her book is of the Viking Age entitled Embers of the

hands, that's a poetic way of saying gold or silver. Embers of the Hands, that's a poetic way of saying gold or silver,

embers of the hands, hidden histories of the Viking Age.

We turn here to a magical cave in Iceland that may or may not exist.

There is a cave, and the archaeologists are working on it now because it seems consistent with Viking belief that there were creatures underground.

There was another world.

Eleanor here tells the story that's in the saga of two men Christians.

This is after conversion who come across the cave and come across a giant inside the cave,

a giant with a poem that is spooky. Here's Eleanor Baraklov, Embers of the Hands, Hidden Histories of the Viking Age.

Highly recommended. Much more of this tonight and tomorrow night.

Thank you.

Yeah, so this is the poem.

It's preserved in a later saga.

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