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PREVIEW: #HITLER: : Conversation with author Sean McMeekin about his book "STALIN's WAR: A New History of World War II," about hos Stalin signaled to Hitler in the Spring of 1939 that he was ready for an alliance in order to gain part of Poland and to obl

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2024

⏱️ 4 minutes

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PREVIEW: #HITLER: Conversation with author Sean McMeekin about his book "STALIN's WAR: A New History of World War II," which discusses how Stalin signaled to Hitler in the Spring of 1939 that he was ready for an alliance. This alliance would allow Stalin to gain part of Poland and to compel England and France to go to war with Germany, leading to their mutual destruction. More details to follow later.

Stalin's War: A New History of World War II, Sean McMeekin, with Kevin Stillwell as narrator. Published by Basic Books. Audible Audiobook – Unabridged

https://www.amazon.com/Stalins-War-New-History-World/dp/B08XW52WNY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15RCHF0X357CE&keywords=mcmeekin+stalins+war&qid=1644188471&s=books&sprefix=mcmeekin+stalins+war%2Cstripbooks%2C67&sr=1-1

Motovo, Ribbentrop, Stalin, August 1939

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This is John Bachelor.

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A conversation with the historian Sean McMeekin, whose book

0:35.8

Stalin's War contains Worlds Within Worlds, a new history of World War II. In this

0:41.6

com in this detail Sean Sean McMahon identifies when it is that Stalin signal to Berlin to Hitler that he was ready to cooperate.

0:55.0

The cooperation, of course, was the driver for the launch of the Second World War and

1:00.2

the catastrophe of Europe in the 1930s and 40s. and the

1:05.0

signal was a speech that Stalin gave in early May 1939.

1:11.0

This context is that Stalin was signaling to Hitler that he was anti-Semitic, that he didn't trust the Jews.

1:22.0

Hence he had fired Lvinov, his very good foreign minister for many years,

1:26.7

who was Jewish and hired Molotov, May 3rd, 1939. He uses an image that tells Hitler it's time to cooperate. And as Sean explains,

1:39.8

Hitler moved immediately, recognized immediately. This is all in the understanding

1:45.2

that Stalin regarded the Second World War as not something to fight to defeat the

1:50.6

Germans, but something to allow him to drive the capitalist states, Germany, England, France, America,

1:58.5

against each other so that he could sweep in and gobble up the ruins.

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