The law and I don't think and I think this is the sort of the ingenuity of capitalism really as a as a cultural force

It is a is a shaper of environments is that its logic isn't even necessarily anything that anyone knows they're doing at the time.

Like Leavitt was saying that, you know, but the workers were demanding land.

I mean, the specific context of the post-war suburbs is not just people wanting land it was a housing crisis

a massive housing crisis that occurred out of the World War.

After World War II people were living in chicken coops.

I mean, but the thing is there's different ways to deal with it.

For example, in the UK, they dealt with it by an unprecedented public housing building.

The council estates, which to this day houses a huge percentage of the British population.

Which means that if you're an American for whom public housing is inherently a stigmatized thing.

As a became, yeah.

To like, to see the fast number of people and the different you know people in almost every

like scale of income and stuff who live in public what is technically public

housing you just you don't even you can't even get your head around it

But we chose another thing we chose to build these suburbs and the function the functional reason because we both because the US came out of World War II with the same like center left majority

You know it wasn't a workers party like the labor party was but it was still a party that was

the backbone of its electoral support came from the working glass as the labor

party in Britain but the difference that free real estate baby free real estate

real estate it's that free real estate, real estate.

Oh man, you're in the UK, you're in this tiny packed little fucking island.

Oh, you got a car, good, what are you going to do with it?

I mean, they suburbanized, but nothing on our scale

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