This is John Batcher. Conversation with Seth Fransman of the Jerusalem Post, his new book

The October 7 War. Tells the story of The Origins of Hamas and from October 7th until the middle of the spring 2024.

Importantly, here Seth gives us the quick version of where Sinwar, the boss of the raid on October 7th, the man who holds out somewhere in

Con Yunus now inside Gaza. Where Sidmar came from and how it was that he rose

so quickly to command Gaza the last decade.

Seth Franzman on Sinwar, the last leader of the murder gang now in hiding somewhere in Gaza

searched for all the time by the IDF.

More of this later in the week.

Yeah, so Simmar spent a long time in Israel,

even in Hebrew, he learned all sorts of other things.

He certainly learned a lot about Israel.

And he was released in 2011 as part of the Shalit deal.

Let's remember that Hamas came to power in 2006 or so after Israel left Gaza,

he took out Israelis that lived there.

And Moss won the legislative elections in the Palestinian Authority.

And then they basically carried out coup in Gaza in 2007 against Bataw.

And prior to doing that, they kidnap Gile Chili.

They kidnap Shalit, by the way,

prior to actually taking over the role of Gaza,

which is a testimony to how powerful they already were.

And Gaza was supposed to be part of the policy authority and we're supposed to have, you know,

European peacekeepers or whatever on the border with Egypt and things like that.

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