This is John Batchelor, conversation with Joe Truzmann of the Foundation for the Defensive Democracy

about the idea of action at Al-Shifa Hospital, well in the north of the Gaza Strip,

well away from the fighting that's been going on at Conunice and the the 150 Hamas fighters using the hospital as a human shield, the doctors, the nurses, the patients.

Now detain 90 of them KIA, two is IDFK A. Importantly, one of the dead man named Isea, Mohammed Ise, said to be

number four in Hamas. Joe analyzes very carefully what that means. This is Joe Truzmann,

Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, about Al-Shifa Hospital and number four.

Right, so this is a big get, for this is a big elimination for the Israelis.

At the moment, the elimination of Madhu and Aisa is actually the biggest elimination as far as Hamas leaders in the Gaza Strip so far in the war for Israel.

This guy is number three, number four and the overall structure of Hamas in Gaza.

All right?

So he's important.

Like you said, he's the deputy of Muhammad Dafe.

Dave is essentially the leader of Hamas's so-called military wing. Now, Dave, he's

been a rather,

he's been around for a long time.

He was a part of the negotiations with Gilad Shalit kidnapping,

and he's done a lot of other things as well.

So he's often referred to as a shadow man

this the guy that doesn't come out in the limelight a lot so

nevertheless it's it's a big guy I mean this is we have to remember

Israel said at the beginning they're going after October 7th of course they're going to go after the leaders or the people that

Masterminded the October 7th attack and Marwan Isa was one of those guys, all right?

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