This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Joseph Sternberg, member of the

editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, he's in London, writes political economics,

about net zero, the ambitions of governments in Europe and the United States,

to reach net zero by such and such a date with mandates passed into law.

And Joe describes what's gone wrong.

What's gone wrong is the government has to send the bill to the taxpayer and the

taxpayer suddenly wakes up to the fact that the bill is very high, there are no resources, and after all who

needs this.

Here's Joe to describe how we got into this fix, where governments are now being challenged

in courts for not living up to their promises, more than promises, the laws

they've passed.

More of this later.

I, if memory serves, there have been a couple of other cases,

legal cases in parts of the European Union,

where the courts also have stepped in to try to mandate

more climate change.

And we should expect a lot more of this kind of activity moving forward for a couple reasons.

On the one hand, we have this phenomenon I was just describing where elected governments are

realizing that the voters who elect them don't want to pay for this stuff.

You were talking very intrusive, very expensive mandates about the kind of car you can drive and how you can heat your home and get your hot water from

and what kind of food you can eat and voters just don't want to do it.

So on the one hand elected politicians are going to naturally enough try to

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