This is John Batcheter. Conversation with the author Timothy Rybak, his new book Takeover, Hitler's

final rise to power.

This is the story of August 1932 to January 1933. It features all the personalities moving around the decision that was

finally made by Hindenburg to make Adolf Hitler Chancellor of Germany.

Here Timothy Rybeck introduces his to a man who was murdered in the night of the long knives in 34,

but who was fundamental to the building of the NSD AP.

That's what we call the Nazis.

Gregor Strasser.

What do we need to know about Strasser? How did Hitler work with him? What might have

happened if Strasser had remained and Hitler had departed? It's tempting to think about how tragedy, the tragedy that still scars us would have been prevented.

Here's Timothy Rybak on Grigor Strasser and his place in the NSD AP before he was murdered by Hitler.

More of this later and next week as well.

Well, Gregor Schatz, you mentioned the name of the party is the National Socialist Workers Party.

And there's those two words are key one is nationalists and the other is

socialist

Hitler and chitoster were basically kind of yin and yang

Hitler was the fanatic nationalists

sthasa was the committed socialists he really was pushing a national but a socialist agenda, meaning he was a man of the people, he was this

easygoing gregarious guy.

He was a coalition builder. He was a baby holder, a baby kiss

right, he would sit with people and drink beer. He just had a working man's kind of appeal that Hitler never did.

There was, you know, Hitler for all of his charisma was an

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