This is John Batchelor, conversation with Judy Dempsey, the editor-in-chief of Strategic Europe for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

The results of the day of the European Union vote, Schultz's weakened, the coalition is weakened.

The question Judy asks in addition to Schultz's role as Chancellor.

What about the Greens?

In retreat, are the Greens ready to rally?

It's a good question through all of Europe,

not just in Germany, but the Greens of Germany have been very powerful these last years.

And Elena Berbach, the foreign minister, is a Green leader and was, and still remains, a possible Chancellor of Germany, but the Greens must rally and

Judy has recommendations. Here's Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

She's in Berlin, about the European Union election and the Greens.

More of this later.

She was unbelievably weakened and it's very hard to know how he's going to claw back any of his credibility

or his strength.

And the Social Democrats are in denial over his leadership, the divisions in the Social Democrats about what he does

and what he doesn't do and what he doesn't say or what he does say. And then he has

these, he has a finance minister who wants to tighten the press strings and stop the spending.

Shorts believes in big spending regardless of how much it costs the taxpayer.

And he's reaching out to pensioners and the unemployed to give them even more money.

And the Greens are funding along.

They seem to have lost their identity, trying to rescue

climate change deals and the Green Deal,

but they've lost a lot of no enough loss of support and I'm not so

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