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This is John Bachelor.

Conversation with the journalist Gaiy Abdulahad, his new book A Stranger in Your

own City, travels in the Middle East Long War. Baghdad, he takes us right in 1986. He's 11, 10, 11 years old watching a parade in

Baghdad with his father. And soldiers are piling by and there's great celebration.

1986, the war will last till the end of the decade.

But in any event, there's a omen all of a sudden and Geith remembers it both ironically and sadly.

Gaiath Abdul Ahad, the rest of the story within these next hours about the observation of Baghdad's

torment from the point of view of someone who was born there, who went through the war there, who reports on it still today.

Stranger in your own city.

Here's Gyth.

And as you say, both sides claimed that they came victorious.

That specific parade I think was around 86 and I was still young and and again I remember my father kind of like lifting me to look at the trucks and the Iraqi soldiers,

and I'm waving my hands because, you know, militarization swept through the society as kids.

We were, you know, we were all wearing military uniforms

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