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PREVIEW: From a conversation later in the show with author Brenda Shaffer about her new book, IRAN IS MORE THAN PERSIA, re how the ethnic minorities of Iran are fiercely anti-regime, and yet this does not mean they are united in their opposition. A fact t

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 30 December 2023

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: From a conversation later in the show with author Brenda Shaffer about her new book, IRAN IS MORE THAN PERSIA, re how the ethnic minorities of Iran are fiercely anti-regime, and yet this does not mean they are united in their opposition. A fact the Tehran regime exploits.

Iran is More Than Persia: Ethnic Politics in Iran Hardcover – by Brenda Shaffer

https://www.amazon.com/Iran-More-Than-Persia-Politics/dp/311079621X

1925 Tehran

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0:00.0

This is John Batcher.

0:01.6

What follows is a preview of my lengthy conversation with Brenda Schaefer, Dr.

0:06.6

Brenda Schaefer, author of Iran is more than Persia.

0:11.1

This is the story of the minorities that around the Tehran donut hole, the minorities

0:17.9

are in sharp dispute with the Central Authority, the Islamic Republic, sharp dispute.

0:24.3

The statistics are everywhere, the one that impresses me most here, Brenda explains, 40% of

0:30.9

the people in Iran don't identify Persian as their language at home.

0:36.9

They speak other languages.

0:39.4

The minorities are united against the regime

0:43.2

that does not mean of course that the minorities are united

0:47.0

here's Brenda

0:48.8

right so you know people that are looking now at this this wave of-regime protests, I keep hearing analysts right and say,

0:55.8

wow, all the minorities are in this together. Isn't it wonderful how unified they are?

1:00.5

Part one and part two are not necessarily the same.

1:04.6

I mean there are a lot of minority groups that wanted to get rid of the Soviet Union.

1:08.1

That doesn't mean they didn't have different agendas once, you know, once the Soviet Union was

1:12.1

weak or once you know, or once it had collapsed.

1:15.0

So I think Iran is discovering, yes, right now that Persians, Kurds, Turks,

1:21.8

Balooch, people could be united in getting rid of the Islamic Republic, but once that happens,

1:27.2

they're going to have a huge dilemma.

1:29.5

And if the Persian mainstream opposition is wants to let's say they want to establish democracy

1:38.6

they're going to have to allow language rights, cultural rights for minorities and this is something that at this

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