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This is John Batcher.

This is an excerpt from a longer conversation with Bruce Bechtel, former

DIA analyst of North Korea, now the author of many books about North Korea, The Predator State,

The Threat. This is about North Korea and tunnels. The

tunnels of North Korea, the tunnels of Hezbollah in the north of Israel under the Bakka.

The tunnels of Hamas underneath Gaza City, Kanyunis, and Rafa.

What do they have in common?

North Korean engineering. Bruce explicates very carefully. Those tunnels are

not accidental and local. Those tunnels are part of a war effort for sale by Pyongyang is Bruce Bechtel on the tunnels.

And there's a difference between Hamas and Hezbollah, at least apparently, at least so far because the North Koreans we know for sure actually went into Lebanon to help Hezbollah build their tunnels in 2003 and 2004.

And those were the tunnels that gave the IDF

such a hard time back in that war. Now of interest, since then, the North Koreans contracted with the Korea Mining Development

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