This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague, Henry Sikolsky, of the Non-Proliferation Policy Education Center,

speaking to drones in the news, also drones in a war game, Henry designed, about a possible hybrid attack on South Korea and Japan simultaneously in order to permit China to overwhelm Taiwan.

Quite fantastic, except for drones are everywhere in the news these days, unidentified.

And Henry here speaks to the concern in Europe about drones that don't have a postmark.

Henry Sikolsky, drones, nuclear energy plants, risk, war, hybrid war?

You understand. More of this tonight.

Well, it's my concern.

I mean, it could be that I'm sort of breathless and sort of an extremist

and being concerned about this, but I don't think so.

In my private conversations with planners planners in the Nordic countries that have nuclear plants

with people in Israel and South Korea, privately, they are quite concerned, as are the Japanese,

that the nuclear plants, you know, are vulnerable and that they are not ready

to take on what might be, you know, an attack.

Not only that, but there have been overflights of reactors with military drones in Germany,

and the military drones are rushed, and they're publicly talking about this.

So if you want to be breathless,

there's plenty to work with.