This is John Batchel.

Conversation with my colleague Veronique du Regime of the Mercatus Center about regulation

and the Doge ambition to reduce regulation and save money for the government.

But there are other things that need to be done, such as the National Environment Protection

Act of 1970.

Here, Veronique makes it very clear that it's self-destructive

to pass something that has environmental concerns

and then cost more and more money and not get anything done.

Bernicke explains NEPA, it's called in short,

National Environment Protection Act 1970, needs to go away.

More of this later.

Other regulations like the National Environmental Protection Act of 1970, for instance, that are part of the EPA,

they've gone so far, so far that they're actually more punishing for building projects

that are green. Green projects get delayed just because of all the permitting requirements

that do not add any either safety or even environmental protection.

It's like it's to the point and it's recognized in a complete bipartisan basis that there's

there are a lot of supports from our friends on the left that NEPA needs to go and that we need to scale back all environmental policies.