Ah, she's brilliant. Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival,

three for a city break. It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her oversized tent.

Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend.

All right.

Roger Junior and his dog, Roger Senior.

And don't get us started on Mel.

But, like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

All aboard Miss I finally got plans out the group chat.

Keep everyone's plans alive when you travel with us.

P and Dau Ferris, there is another way.

This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Allison Fadirca, an analyst to geopolitical

futures about the Darien gap and remedies for the constant overwhelming flow of migrants through the Darien gap headed to the American border.

The Panamanian authorities under the new president, cooperating with the United States, beginning steps to at least reduce the flow initially.

And Allison discusses the details of that.

It's a beginning. Hundreds of thousands have come through these

last years. This is Allison Frderka, Geopolitical futures. More of this later

tonight.

So their best plan for interrupting is to impede the flow of people entering the country in the first place.

And that primarily occurs through the Darien Gap.

They've started Mary Time Patrols because there's a lot of boats that come from Columbia

that cut the gap distance down with a safer passage on water.

So they are doing patrols to try and interdict the these ships before they arrive to

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