This is John Batcher, a conversation with my colleague Victor Davis Hanson, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution,

about the conspiracy stories that have been advanced by very powerful people over these last years,

beginning with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 advancing and paying for

the conspiracy theory that

continued through the conspiracy theory of, say,

the Hunter-Biden laptop,

individuals who were also veteran professional intelligence officers

made it very clear to the American people that this was a product of Russian

disinformation. It was a Russian plan. That is not the case. It was not

the case of the time. It will not be case at the future. However, what penalty

are people who have advanced conspiracy theories? What penalty do they pay?

Victor Davis Hanson on, the conspiracy theories that have been very successful these last last years and the penalty for misleading the

American people more of this later tonight. Yes I know and Leonetta, the ex-CIA director, was asked point blank on television.

Do you have any regrets? Now that you know that the laptop is authentic and the FBI is authenticated,

that's been used in a court case involving

Hunter Biden where he even admits it, de facto.

He said no and it never ends and so it's designed to send a message to people and the message is it doesn't matter whether

what the evidence is it doesn't matter if it's true or false. What matters is you are on the wrong side of power and

influence and you're going to pay. And look what happened to Michael Flynn, look at

to Mr. Papadopoulos, look what happened to Scott Atlas, look

what happened to Jay Bacharya, look what happened to all of these people.

And is it really worth it for you to persist in resistance because by the same token

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