This is John Batcheter, conversation with colleague Judy Dempsey of the Carnegie and Downfer International Peace in Germany about the competition between Germany's auto industry and China's auto industry when it comes to

electric vehicles. Judy makes two important points. One about Germany being

slow to innovate. And two about Germany subsidizing in

competition with China subsidizing. Germany is the manufacturing engine of the European Union and how's it doing?

Judy Dempsey, Carnegie Endowment, much more of this tonight.

Yes that is true and she comes from Hanover and Hanover is the capital of the state of

Lower Saxony and guess what? The Lower Saxony is where Volkswagen is placed.

But just let me just pull back a little.

Germany is not be meably slow to embrace innovation,

to embrace digitalization, to embrace artificial intelligence.

There's been any number of statistics out today on how companies, 20% maybe of companies 15%

logistic companies, supermarkets are dealing with AI.

They just don't, they're just not embracing it

exactly that they didn't embrace

embrace electric cars.

This is the first thing.

Secondly,

in the Germany and the EU can criticize China for subsidizing the electric cars.

Oh and then that facilitates their equip was hello but Germany is subsidising the companies more and more now

these outer companies which are completely outdated

and they've been very, very slow

and frankly it's time actually to recognize that

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