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Preview: Colleague Rick Fisher explains how nuclear weapons figured in the short escalatory battle over Kashmir. More later.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Preview: Colleague Rick Fisher explains how nuclear weapons figured in the short escalatory battle over Kashmir. More later.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel. Conversation with colleague Rick Fisher of the International Assessment and Strategy Center.

0:07.0

Lessons learned from the recent exchange of weaponry by India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

0:13.7

Rick gives us lesson number one. It's about nuclear weapons. Both India and Pakistan possess nuclear weapons.

0:20.6

We're told Pakistan has tactical nuclear weapons, meaning small yield.

0:25.6

But one small yield would lead to a very big catastrophe globally.

0:30.6

Here's Rick to assess what those nuclear weapons did or did not do in the conflict that lasted a few hours.

0:41.7

Much more of this tonight.

0:43.6

Lesson number one, John, is that nuclear weapons mattered in this conflict.

0:51.1

That both sides could strike each other with nuclear weapons, forced India to

0:59.0

constrain its campaign, to tailor its strikes against the terrorist sites, all to avoid

1:10.0

escalation that, that unfortunately was on the way to avoid a nuclear exchange.

1:19.3

And the American intervention coming nearly at the last minute when India feared that Pakistan was considering a nuclear escalation,

1:34.2

turn the tide away from a potential real nuclear exchange.

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