PREVIEW: Colleague Judy Dempsey of Carnegie in Berlin observes that the Trump administration's assumed intention to pass the baton of European defense may have "galvanized" the EU states to take responsibility. More later.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 11 March 2025
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchel, conversation with my colleague Judy Dempsey of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. |
| 0:06.8 | She's in Berlin about the result of the back and forth between the Trump administration and Brussels and Keefe in these last weeks, |
| 0:17.0 | leading to Europe understanding that NATO is not their future, that they are going to be on their |
| 0:24.0 | own for defense of Europe from a Russian aggressor, a Chinese aggressor, any aggressor, and what is to |
| 0:30.6 | be done? Here, Judy, analyzes what comes next in the EU. 750 million people are the continent of Europe, some in the EU, some not yet, |
| 0:41.1 | some don't want to be, some are mixed opinions about being in. However, very sophisticated |
| 0:47.1 | consumers and governments. Judy Dempsey on the future of the EU, of NATO, of Europe, and the 21st century. |
| 0:57.8 | More of this tonight. |
| 0:59.2 | What's going to happen in the next couple of months, it's got to be speeded up, is that Poland, |
| 1:05.1 | with France, with Germany, the Netherlands, and the UK will actually start really deciding |
| 1:10.6 | how they're going to fix |
| 1:13.3 | a nuclear security guarantee for Europe |
| 1:16.3 | and indeed maybe for its eastern neighbours as well. |
| 1:21.5 | What is very interesting about this |
| 1:24.8 | is that if you think Russia was the threat for some of the countries in Europe, |
| 1:32.5 | there wasn't a common threat perception. |
| 1:35.8 | This incoming Trump administration has actually galvanized the 27 member states |
| 1:42.9 | plus the non-EU member United Kingdom to actually realize |
| 1:48.7 | what is the stake, not Russia, but actually the United States, that may be the trigger for |
| 1:56.7 | pushing Europe much, much more together and united. |
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