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The John Batchelor Show

Preview: Colleague Jeff McCausland of CBS News looks to time to unfreeze the likely end of the Russo-Ukrainian war. More

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Preview: Colleague Jeff McCausland of CBS News looks to time to unfreeze the likely end of the Russo-Ukrainian war. More
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague Jeff McCausen in the United States Army retired

0:05.2

about the standoff on the battlefield in Ukraine and what both sides can expect from negotiations and a ceasefire.

0:14.5

Not much more than they started with. However, as Jeff reminds all of us, time is a thing. It bites. Frees the battlefield and wait a generation, two generations, half a generation. Different models from the 20th century continue. The Koreas, for example, Cyprus, for example.

0:41.1

Jeff McCawson on where we are right now and what the battlefield might look like in future.

0:44.8

More of this tonight.

0:46.6

Yeah, I think it's very likely to be the case

0:49.0

because a full resolution is almost impossible

0:51.8

since both sides of real main objectives are intractable.

0:55.9

On the Ukrainian side, they want the Russians to fully pull back from the territory they've

1:00.1

occupied to include Crimea. That would demand, frankly, probably an abrogation of the current

1:06.0

government in Russia and Mr. Putin stepping down his president. I don't see him doing that

1:10.5

anytime soon.

1:11.9

On the other side, the Russian maximalist demands call for really the Zelensky government to go,

1:18.5

neutralization of Ukraine, and massive limitations on their military. So some ceasefire in between

1:24.5

that can freeze the situation as it is, end the fighting, and see if

1:29.1

political conditions can change over time to move, hopefully, over time to a longer-term settlement

1:34.0

is probably the best thing you can do. We've seen that in Cyprus, seen that in Panamanjohn.

1:40.3

You actually could say we saw that in Berlin during the Cold War, but adjustments were made and agreements were made between both sides in several of these places,

1:48.8

which may have perceived to be technical at the time,

1:52.5

but showed that the political climates were changing and therefore the conditions for the ceasefire could also reflect that.

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