This is John Batchel. Conversation with a colleague Andrew McCarthy about the Venezuelans were told,

who were sent by aircraft to El Salvador. The Judge Boasberg of the federal district court

ordered the planes turned around. That did not happen. Now Judge Boasberg wants more information

about those who have been deported.

To my knowledge, that has not happened yet.

Andy speaks here to how the debate has moved from the original understanding Alien Enemy's Act,

giving the president the power to deport over to the question of due process.

Here, Andy explains it. They will have a day in court

if they weren't in an El Salvador jail, but it does stop the process of more aircraft to follow.

Much more of this tonight and in coming days. Well, I guess, John, they probably think they have one part of it to the extent that they have now deported 261 people that they wanted out of the country under circumstances where if those people got court proceedings, perhaps a goodly number of them certainly would not have been deported yet,

and it might have taken a very extensive period of time. So, you know, depending on how

dangerous those people are, which we don't really have a record on, we have a lot going back to

2020 when the first Trump administration indicted Nicholas Maduro and a number of

top officials in the Venezuelan government, we do know that there are operational ties between

that regime and Trenda, Aragua. So to the extent that you got some people out of there,

I guess the administration would mark that as a success. But it may be a very temporary,

tenuous success because I think what's happened here is the controversy has shifted from the

initial question, which was whether

it was proper for Trump to invoke the Alien Enemies Act, you know, whether we had an invasion

or a predatory incursion. That's really not the issue so much anymore. The issue now is due

process because the Trump administration has had to

concede that these detainees are entitled to challenge whether they are actually alien enemies

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