This is John Batcheerv, a conversation with the author and classicist Daisy Dunn, The

Missing Thread Women's History of the Ancient World, a comprehensive study of the classical world, beginning with the

beginning with the myths and the semi-historical

miss of the Iliad and the Minoans on Crete,

and ranging all the way through to the Julian Claudia Nanding with Niro's

suicide after he murdered his mother Agrippina. The chronological history is told

but also focus on the The chronological and of the bit players

the miss altogether.

We begin with the Minoans and we begin with the Iliad in Troy,

but the violence, the tricks, the marriages, the fertility, overwhelming.

Here, Daisy helps understand the metaphorical language of the classical world, women and weaving, women

and cloth making, women and spinning. Why, what did that mean to both the Greeks and the Persians and the Romans and the

Carthaginians the Mediterranean world of the first

century of 80

century of 80 more of this in the coming weeks.

I think so very much so. in the coming weeks.

I think so very much so. I mean weaving and ancient women go hand in hair and they do it for thousands of years through our history.

We know in the Bronze Age women were weaving making extraordinary clothes and then in the

Roman period likewise they're all weaving they're making that husband's clothes

they're doing all sorts of things but it went beyond the kind of practical use of weaving.

There are stories we know in the myths people talk of at that time of the fates.

And the fates were these sort of spinners who would spin out in the same way that women were weaving,

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