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PREVIEW: CISLUNAR SPACE: Space Systems Architect Dallas Bienhoff comments on the market monetizing of the needs for the Earth-Moon system. More.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW: CISLUNAR SPACE: Space Systems Architect Dallas Bienhoff comments on the market monetizing of the needs for the Earth-Moon system. More.
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0:00.0

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0:01.9

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0:04.1

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0:25.9

the space systems architect, that's offworld.a.a.

0:32.0

We're looking at cis-luner space, monetizing.

0:36.7

This is an Earth-Moon system and beyond.

0:40.0

The Lagrange points, low Earth orbit, geosynchronous orbit, same for the moon, and then the moon itself.

0:48.5

Lots of opportunity, Dallas outlines some of them here.

0:52.3

All coming, monetizing cis-l cis lunar space. More of this tonight.

0:59.7

I don't think it's too early. There are things that are needed in cis lunar space. Like, like I said,

1:05.5

propellant depots, transportation nodes, those are being, those are required by SpaceX and by Blue Origin, and they have them in their plans.

1:17.6

If somebody wants to put a habitat in in Sysluner space, say at L1 or above the moon or in lunar orbit,

1:25.9

certainly it's too early from a transportation, from a

1:30.3

proven transportation standpoint. I think Bigelow Aerospace is a prime example of somebody

1:37.0

ahead of his time in wanting to put things up before transportation was available. And because

1:43.4

transportation wasn't available, he eventually closed his business.

1:48.4

Once transportation is available, that's when it's time to start thinking about investing, I think.

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