This is John Bachelor, conversation with Professor Robert Schmool, Notre Dame a Maritus historian,

his new book Mr Churchill in the White House, the untold story of a prime minister and two presidents.

Churchill loved being at the White House with FDR and the anecdotes are rich and long.

Important to say, where did he stay at the White House?

And Bob Schmull tells the story of Churchill's first night arriving.

It's wartime. The U.S. is shocked by the attack in Pearl Harbor.

Germany has declared war on the U.S.

Everybody knows they're headed to unknown tragedies.

Churchill, however, wants to find a bed that he's comfortable in.

And so, here's Bob Schmull to explain,

Mr. Churchill in the White House chooses a bedroom.

More of this later in September.

It is in the living quarters of the White House on the second floor. It would not be at all open to the public.

It is now called the Queen's Bedroom and the story behind Churchill staying in what was then the rose bedroom

was that when he arrived on December the 22nd in the evening, they took him around and he tested

the beds in the visitor's quarters.

And Eleanor Roosevelt, and we can get into her involvement in his visits,

but Eleanor was sure that he would take the Lincoln bedroom, but he didn't like

the bed there too hard. So he ends up at the Rose bedroom and he camps there as you say and he comes back a number of times

during Franklin Roosevelt's presidency.

And then when he returns in the 1950s,

where does Dwight Eisenhower assign him to live, Winston, you're going to stay in the same room where I met you

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